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Post by <~+*power*+~> on Oct 23, 2006 19:41:23 GMT -5
ok, here we go--spoilers spoilers spoilers!!!!
ok, so my number one question is, is Beatrice the Baudelaire's mother after all? cause Kit wanted the Baudelaires to name the baby after one of their parents, and at the end of chapter fourteen, it says the baby spoke its own name(or referred to the boat....), so....yeah. and olaf dying? woah!
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Post by kal on Oct 23, 2006 21:05:15 GMT -5
You mean FINALLY dying? What I cant belive is he acctually did something good. And my question is: If beatrice is the Baudelaires mother than Lemony is their father? And I realized that the dedication has something to do with the book.
For THE END: I cherished, you perished, the world is nightmarish. Last line: THe book has to do with the island living a safe life. And in the end chapter it has to do with that boat and it says "paticuraly you" and the boat was beatrice.
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Post by Mickey on Oct 23, 2006 23:38:41 GMT -5
Alright, you're both right, let me just clarify, I've put it in easy to understand terms. There are THREE Beatrices, TWO Beatrice Baudelaires (Elder & Junior) So I'll refer to them as "Ship Beatrice, Elder, & Junior" Ship Beatrice was shipwrecked, and then they rebuilt it. Elder is the Baudelairs mother. The baudelaires father was Beatrand, because Beatrice did NOT marry Lemony, despite being in love with him. Also: She thought he was dead. That's why she was going to name Violet, Lemony (according the tradition of naming someone after someone who is dead to honor him). She also RETURNED the Duchesses ring. So no, Lemony isn't the father, and I'm calling him Bertrand from projection on one of the pages. That is a projection not fact, but it is supported a bit. The Elder theory is basically fact. Junior is the Beatrice who gets Lemony to write the books. They correspond, in the Beatrice Letters, and she is asking for info on them. I can only assume that Junior is "taken" by V.F.D., meets Lemony, and hungers for info on her adoptive parents. Considering that Lemony was in love with the person she is named after in honor, he wrote the books to honor her. The whole olaf thing was awesome! Think about it, he was killed by his own poison!!! I have to go to sleep, but by no means is my discussion of this over So here is my question to you, 2. What does V.F.D. stand for & what does it do? (note- we actually had the answer in TGG, we somehow skipped over it.)
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Post by kal on Oct 24, 2006 20:23:11 GMT -5
well in the book it was Volunteer Fire Depmartment. but in TGG captin widdershinns was like "it means a varity of things" and stuff.
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Post by Mickey on Oct 25, 2006 22:38:14 GMT -5
Yeah, It's Volunteer Fire Department, but each acronym stands with some part of the organization, it's all sorts of for, literal fires and iliteral injustices. Thats what I think can be inferred. Oh! And I think FFP made an appearence! At the last page, you can see a shadow question mark, and I've come to believe that eh question mark is FFP, based on Olaf's remark about "them" and the fact that they obviously are on the water. I think they fight against Olaf, but don't dedicate themselves to VFD. I hope they are in the book, "Horseradish" coming out in May. It should shed several lights on the matter...
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Post by <~+*power*+~> on Oct 26, 2006 17:10:23 GMT -5
i still need to read the beatrice letters book! and yeah, i was thinking of the FFP too-it makes sense. i want to go through the book again, as well as the 12th book, and take notes on them in my "commonplace notebook". hhehee. when i was reading The End, i was practically exploding because it was so fully of clues, i just couldn't figure a lot of them out.
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Post by Mickey on Oct 26, 2006 20:26:53 GMT -5
Exactly what I was doing !!! I had so much to think about and I was speeding through it, and I was so annoyed about that!! Hehee.
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